Hallo zusammen
Und auch für die Dienst Mi. Nr. 2 ein eigener thread - ebenfalls einige lose Exemplare -und auch hier die Bitte um Unterstützung!
Schöne Grüße vom
bayernfarbenvielfaltverrückten
Bayern-Nerv Volker
Hallo zusammen
Und auch für die Dienst Mi. Nr. 2 ein eigener thread - ebenfalls einige lose Exemplare -und auch hier die Bitte um Unterstützung!
Schöne Grüße vom
bayernfarbenvielfaltverrückten
Bayern-Nerv Volker
Hallo zusammen!
Beim Kramen in der Pfennnigkiste fiel mir gerade diese Postkarte in die Finger!
... hätte ich auch bei den "teilvorgedruckten der Pfennigzeit" zeigen können...
Schöne Grüße vom bayernfarbenvielfaltverrückten
Bayern-Nerv Volker
Beim Kramen in der Pfennnigkiste fiel mir gerade diese Postkarte in die Finger!
Kann ich nur teilweise entziffern (Das vor .....anwärterswitwe). Und gab es damals noch R.S.? Dienststempel und Marke?
Hallo,
R.S. gab es noch, auch wenn es hier abgeändert wurde auf E.D.K. = Eisenbahn - Direktions - Kasse.
Der Titel lautete "Wagenwärtergehilfewitwe".
Liebe Grüsse von bayern klassisch
Hello guys
Look at my Nr.2
Something wrong???
yours
Hornet785
Hello guys
In my previous post, I posted a nice stamp...I was asking if it's a fake or not..To help you in finding the wrong thing on it, I'll give you a tip: Somebody was on party the night before. (just for fun)
Regards
Hornet785
Hello Hornet,
is not a PF, so i can not help you .
Best regards
Plattenfehler
hello Plattenfehler
Did you see it?
Yours
Hornet785
Hello Hornet,
switch the "E" to 180°. Standing on top.
Whats wrong with mine? Nothing.
Best regards
Plattenfehler
Hello Plattenfehler
What you show is a dramatic one.... For mine, I was not sure about the inverted E but what make me doubt is the cancel : 1894.
So may be a fake one...anybody can help??
If it's a good one, the postmaster was a bit on the alcool!!!
Regards
Hello guys
What do you think about my Dienst Nr.2
Is it a fake E over a earlier cancelled stamp?
Regards
Hornet785
Hallo Hornet785.
just a question to the cancellation: Is it possible to determine on the original if the black colour of the postmark is over or under the red "E" ?
+ greetings
from the Pälzer
PS: cool avatar
Hello Pälzer
Yes I did check that...But the red ink is not deep enough to state it's over or under. Any known fakes of this low value?
Thanks for the avatar
Regards
Hornet785
Hallo Hornet785,
the last question will be better answered by poldi, a good friend of mine and one of the new members here too. I will contact him about it. My opinion to the case: The postmark is authentic, the red "E" not. Fact is that the red colour is scattered on the stamp. Not a final proof of falsification, but alreday out-of-the-way. Another fact speaks louder: Till 1908 official letters of the bavarian railway-administration were excepted from any postage. In so far the issue / usage of a service-stamp like this in the year 1894 was neither possible nor provided.
best regards !
Tim..the Pälzer
Hello Hornet,
regarding your question "Is it a fake E over a earlier cancelled stamp?" I will follow Pälzer. It is a fake of the "E".
First reason like he mentioned. Only stamps from the edidtion 35 til 37 were marked with the red E. These stamps were selled not before 01.01.1908. Therefore a stamp with a cancel before this date is not possible.
Second reason. If you look in detail to the E and compare it with a normal stamped E you see the differences.
- by the normal E the lower line/bar of the E is minimal longer than the upper one.
- the middle line/bar of the E is really in the middle of the lower and upper
Peter Sem is writing in his Book "Aufdruckfälschungen sind von Nr. 1 bis Nr. 5 bekannt (lose und auf Brief).
"fake prints are known of Nr. 1 til Nr. 5 (loose and on letters)
I add a block of four stamps to compare the "E".
staatswappen
Hello Hornet, hallo Staatswappen,
switch the "E" to 180°. Standing on top.
this was my first guess about the "E". I did not see the cancel, just was looking on the "E". It is a fake.
- by the normal E the lower line/bar of the E is minimal longer than the upper one.
- the middle line/bar of the E is really in the middle of the lower and upper
Best regards.
Plattenfehler
Hello Gents
I do forward these pics of my stamp. Hard to say if it's over or under
Comments?
Best regards
Hornet785
PS: PF, your stamps is awsome
Hello
It's really over the cancel...so..who can do a fake E for such a low value stamp?????
Crazy sometimes
I will keep this one, it's too funny...
See you guys
Sylvain
Hello guys
From your point of view, the cancel is over or under? I'm not so sure. Any tricks to verify that positively?
Yours
Sylvain
Hallo hornet,
I think we`ve discussed this fake-stamp long enough now. We`ve already detemined that A) such a stamp simply cannot exist, and B) that the "E" is not the one of an original-stamp.
The possibilities to analyze the authenticity of a stamp just on a scan via internet has it´s limits. But okay enclosed an attempt.
At the end of the middle balk of the "E" there is a little round window, where you can see the "1" of the cancel passing out/in the frame of it. I think the picture speaks for itself.
Best Regards
Pälzer